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Help with Iskraemeco AM550 in Slovenia #869

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nori-modelar opened this issue Nov 15, 2024 · 30 comments
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Help with Iskraemeco AM550 in Slovenia #869

nori-modelar opened this issue Nov 15, 2024 · 30 comments
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nori-modelar commented Nov 15, 2024

Hello team,

first of all thanks for the hard work you've put in this, i greatly appreciate it even though i can not get this to work. The irony here is that Iskraemeco is from my country (Slovenia) and it works flawlessly for people living in other EU countries, but not for us here. This is also an edited post for other people coming from Slovenia, specifically from Elektro Ljubljana, who would like to get it working...

So the problem story:
-first i bought Slimmelezer+, did not work, no data
-bought Homewizard P1 meter, did not work, no data or extremely weird
-flashed Slimmelezer+ with AMSreader, does not work

Specs:

  • Country: Slovenija
  • Meter: Iskraemeco AM550 ED1.21 (picture attached)
  • Encryption : provider( El. Ljubljana) said the port is open, no encryption
  • AMS reader: slimmelezer+

Firmware:

  • Version: 2.3.9
  • Played around with different settings, baud etc. nothing helped.
  • Also played around with hardware section UART0&2 and also invert etc..nothing changes.

Now i did found on the web that im supposed to set the baud to 38400 for this Slovenian meter, if this is of any help
Telnet messages are down in the comments :)

Strangely I also found out on the web that some Slovenian users managed to get it working on the first try with homewizard reader, with the same meter and same electricity company here.

Any help would be very appreciated!

Screenshot 2024-11-15 at 23 11 22

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ArnieO commented Nov 16, 2024

There seems to be some particular issues with the payload formats used by Slovenian grid companies.
Did you read this thread? #615
"Each of the grid disti's has their own variant. So practically approx. 9 different versions in Slovenia."

  • Do you have any documentation from your electricity company of your meter, especially the format of the data coming from it?
  • Run a Telnet debug to look at the raw data from the meter - and compare with the thread I linked.

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TimotejHofbauer commented Nov 17, 2024

Managed to get data coming in, here is the section:
I am running on MacOS, so i could not really find telnet function to save a file of the data coming in.

Second question: No, currently not...will try to get it.
Seeing thread #615 , should I flash it with the "custom" fw in there? Will that solve anything?

(V) HDLC frame:
(V) 7E A0 61 CF 02 23 13 63 CA E6 E7 00 0F 00 04 56
(V) 0D 0C 07 E8 0B 11 07 15 1A 2C 00 FF C4 00 02 09
(V) 09 10 49 53 4B 31 30 32 30 37 38 34 36 30 35 38
(V) 38 37 09 0B 49 53 4B 38 34 36 30 35 38 38 37 06
(V) 00 00 01 75 06 00 00 00 00 06 00 00 00 00 06 00
(V) 00 00 00 12 08 FD 06 00 00 00 00 06 00 00 00 00
(V) 8D 22 7E
(V) LLC frame:
(V) E6 E7 00 0F 00 04 56 0D 0C 07 E8 0B 11 07 15 1A
(V) 2C 00 FF C4 00 02 09 09 10 49 53 4B 31 30 32 30
(V) 37 38 34 36 30 35 38 38 37 09 0B 49 53 4B 38 34
(V) 36 30 35 38 38 37 06 00 00 01 75 06 00 00 00 00
(V) 06 00 00 00 00 06 00 00 00 00 12 08 FD 06 00 00
(V) 00 00 06 00 00 00 00
(V) DLMS frame:
(V) 0F 00 04 56 0D 0C 07 E8 0B 11 07 15 1A 2C 00 FF
(V) C4 00 02 09 09 10 49 53 4B 31 30 32 30 37 38 34
(V) 36 30 35 38 38 37 09 0B 49 53 4B 38 34 36 30 35
(V) 38 38 37 06 00 00 01 75 06 00 00 00 00 06 00 00
(V) 00 00 06 00 00 00 00 12 08 FD 06 00 00 00 00 06
(V) 00 00 00 00
(D) Received valid DLMS at 30
(V) Using application data:
(V) 02 09 09 10 49 53 4B 31 30 32 30 37 38 34 36 30
(V) 35 38 38 37 09 0B 49 53 4B 38 34 36 30 35 38 38
(V) 37 06 00 00 01 75 06 00 00 00 00 06 00 00 00 00
(V) 06 00 00 00 00 12 08 FD 06 00 00 00 00 06 00 00
(V) 00 00
(V) DLMS

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ArnieO commented Nov 18, 2024

I am running on MacOS, so i could not really find telnet function to save a file of the data coming in.

This is just fine! The DLSM section can be decoded using this tool, which gives the folloing in XML format:

<DataNotification>
  <LongInvokeIdAndPriority Value="0004560D" />
  <!--2024-11-17 21:26:44-->
  <DateTime Value="07E80B1107151A2C00FFC400" />
  <NotificationBody>
    <DataValue>
      <Structure Qty="09" >
        <!--ISK1020784605887-->
        <OctetString Value="49534B31303230373834363035383837" />
        <!--ISK84605887-->
        <OctetString Value="49534B3834363035383837" />
        <UInt32 Value="00000175" />
        <UInt32 Value="00000000" />
        <UInt32 Value="00000000" />
        <UInt32 Value="00000000" />
        <UInt16 Value="08FD" />
        <UInt32 Value="00000000" />
        <UInt32 Value="00000000" />
      </Structure>
    </DataValue>
  </NotificationBody>
</DataNotification>

This looks quite similar to some of the payloads in that thread , but is apparently not identical.

The test firmware that @gskjold published in the thread is integrated in the project now, so it will not help you.

It seems like the problem is this: #615 (comment)

HI All; I did some calls today - and its true.
Each of the grid disti's has their own variant. So practically approx. 9 different versions in Slovenia.

And the answer from @gskjold right after:

That is unfortunate... But I will keep this in mind in case I can think of a good way to support this

I will put it the issue on our agenda to see if something can be done to handle your case.

Note:
As the payload does not use OBIS codes to identify the list of parameters, we will need the same type of information for your meter / grid operator as what @svaliv49 provided at the end of this post: #615 (comment)

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Managed to obtain some info from an employee at Elektro Ljubljana (distributer), sorry for the delay.

Communication:
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Telegram per second:
image009

Telegram 15min:

Unknown

image012

Is this enough? I am having hard times explaining to him what exactly to send over so if anything more is needed just let me know and make it specific.

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ArnieO commented Nov 22, 2024

Is this enough?

Yes, this seems to be it - and the "per second telegram" (it is maybe 5 seconds interval?) seems to correspond with what you sent earlier.

In order to proceed, we also need you to capture a "15 minute telegram". Can you do that?

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The person from El.Ljubljana said it is 1s telegram and attached the picture above. And when im running telnet I believe im seeing data refreshing every second.

Here you can see (when i run DLS translator) that we have data for the 59th second and then the 15min data, one after another...meaning 1 second refresh if i get it right.
But in the last line you can see something i was not able to find anywhere on Github-therefore bellow i have attached another run of the code for the next quarter 15min reading.

Data for UTC 19:45 and one second before here:

(V) HDLC frame:
(V) 7E A0 61 CF  02 23 13 63  CA E6 E7 00  0F 00 0A E7 
(V) 82 0C 07 E8  0B 16 05 14  2C 3B 00 FF  C4 00 02 09 
(V) 09 10 49 53  4B 31 30 32  30 37 38 34  36 30 35 38 
(V) 38 37 09 0B  49 53 4B 38  34 36 30 35  38 38 37 06 
(V) 00 00 02 50  06 00 00 00  00 06 00 00  00 00 06 00 
(V) 00 00 70 12  09 09 06 00  00 00 00 06  00 00 00 00 
(V) 13 66 7E 
(V) LLC frame:
(V) E6 E7 00 0F  00 0A E7 82  0C 07 E8 0B  16 05 14 2C 
(V) 3B 00 FF C4  00 02 09 09  10 49 53 4B  31 30 32 30 
(V) 37 38 34 36  30 35 38 38  37 09 0B 49  53 4B 38 34 
(V) 36 30 35 38  38 37 06 00  00 02 50 06  00 00 00 00 
(V) 06 00 00 00  00 06 00 00  00 70 12 09  09 06 00 00 
(V) 00 00 06 00  00 00 00 
(V) DLMS frame:
(V) 0F 00 0A E7  82 0C 07 E8  0B 16 05 14  2C 3B 00 FF 
(V) C4 00 02 09  09 10 49 53  4B 31 30 32  30 37 38 34 
(V) 36 30 35 38  38 37 09 0B  49 53 4B 38  34 36 30 35 
(V) 38 38 37 06  00 00 02 50  06 00 00 00  00 06 00 00 
(V) 00 00 06 00  00 00 70 12  09 09 06 00  00 00 00 06 
(V) 00 00 00 00  
(D) Received valid DLMS at 30
(V) Using application data:
(V) 02 09 09 10  49 53 4B 31  30 32 30 37  38 34 36 30 
(V) 35 38 38 37  09 0B 49 53  4B 38 34 36  30 35 38 38 
(V) 37 06 00 00  02 50 06 00  00 00 00 06  00 00 00 00 
(V) 06 00 00 00  70 12 09 09  06 00 00 00  00 06 00 00 
(V) 00 00 
(V) DLMS
(V) HDLC frame:
(V) 7E A0 37 CF  02 23 13 99  84 E6 E7 00  0F 00 0A E7 
(V) 83 0C 07 E8  0B 16 05 14  2D 00 00 FF  C4 00 02 04 
(V) 09 08 38 34  36 30 35 38  38 37 11 00  06 00 78 EB 
(V) A1 06 00 00  00 00 85 7B  7E 
(V) LLC frame:
(V) E6 E7 00 0F  00 0A E7 83  0C 07 E8 0B  16 05 14 2D 
(V) 00 00 FF C4  00 02 04 09  08 38 34 36  30 35 38 38 
(V) 37 11 00 06  00 78 EB A1  06 00 00 00  00 
(V) DLMS frame:
(V) 0F 00 0A E7  83 0C 07 E8  0B 16 05 14  2D 00 00 FF 
(V) C4 00 02 04  09 08 38 34  36 30 35 38  38 37 11 00 
(V) 06 00 78 EB  A1 06 00 00  00 00 
(D) Received valid DLMS at 30
(V) Using application data:
(V) 02 04 09 08  38 34 36 30  35 38 38 37  11 00 06 00 
(V) 78 EB A1 06  00 00 00 00  
(V) DLMS
(D) NOT Ready to update (internal clock 19:45:05 UTC, meter clock: 00:00:00, list type 3, est: 0)

Data for UTC 20:00 and one second after:

(V) HDLC frame:
(V) 7E A0 37 CF  02 23 13 99  84 E6 E7 00  0F 00 0A EB 
(V) 09 0C 07 E8  0B 16 05 15  00 00 00 FF  C4 00 02 04 
(V) 09 08 38 34  36 30 35 38  38 37 11 00  06 00 78 EC 
(V) 38 06 00 00  00 00 12 17  7E 
(V) LLC frame:
(V) E6 E7 00 0F  00 0A EB 09  0C 07 E8 0B  16 05 15 00 
(V) 00 00 FF C4  00 02 04 09  08 38 34 36  30 35 38 38 
(V) 37 11 00 06  00 78 EC 38  06 00 00 00  00 
(V) DLMS frame:
(V) 0F 00 0A EB  09 0C 07 E8  0B 16 05 15  00 00 00 FF 
(V) C4 00 02 04  09 08 38 34  36 30 35 38  38 37 11 00 
(V) 06 00 78 EC  38 06 00 00  00 00 
(D) Received valid DLMS at 30
(V) Using application data:
(V) 02 04 09 08  38 34 36 30  35 38 38 37  11 00 06 00 
(V) 78 EC 38 06  00 00 00 00  
(V) DLMS
(D) READY to update (internal clock 20:00:05 UTC, meter clock: 00:00:00, list type 3, est: 0, using clock: 1)
(D) Updating data storage using actual data
(D) Clearing hours from 19 to 20
(D) Clearing days from 22 to 22
(D) Day is not happy
(D)  - normal
(I) Saving data
(V) HDLC frame:
(V) 7E A0 61 CF  02 23 13 63  CA E6 E7 00  0F 00 0A EB 
(V) 0A 0C 07 E8  0B 16 05 15  00 00 00 FF  C4 00 02 09 
(V) 09 10 49 53  4B 31 30 32  30 37 38 34  36 30 35 38 
(V) 38 37 09 0B  49 53 4B 38  34 36 30 35  38 38 37 06 
(V) 00 00 02 57  06 00 00 00  00 06 00 00  00 00 06 00 
(V) 00 00 5D 12  09 07 06 00  00 00 00 06  00 00 00 00 
(V) 4B E1 7E 
(V) LLC frame:
(V) E6 E7 00 0F  00 0A EB 0A  0C 07 E8 0B  16 05 15 00 
(V) 00 00 FF C4  00 02 09 09  10 49 53 4B  31 30 32 30 
(V) 37 38 34 36  30 35 38 38  37 09 0B 49  53 4B 38 34 
(V) 36 30 35 38  38 37 06 00  00 02 57 06  00 00 00 00 
(V) 06 00 00 00  00 06 00 00  00 5D 12 09  07 06 00 00 
(V) 00 00 06 00  00 00 00 
(V) DLMS frame:
(V) 0F 00 0A EB  0A 0C 07 E8  0B 16 05 15  00 00 00 FF 
(V) C4 00 02 09  09 10 49 53  4B 31 30 32  30 37 38 34 
(V) 36 30 35 38  38 37 09 0B  49 53 4B 38  34 36 30 35 
(V) 38 38 37 06  00 00 02 57  06 00 00 00  00 06 00 00 
(V) 00 00 06 00  00 00 5D 12  09 07 06 00  00 00 00 06 
(V) 00 00 00 00  
(D) Received valid DLMS at 30
(V) Using application data:
(V) 02 09 09 10  49 53 4B 31  30 32 30 37  38 34 36 30 
(V) 35 38 38 37  09 0B 49 53  4B 38 34 36  30 35 38 38 
(V) 37 06 00 00  02 57 06 00  00 00 00 06  00 00 00 00 
(V) 06 00 00 00  5D 12 09 07  06 00 00 00  00 06 00 00 
(V) 00 00 
(V) DLMS

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Totally missed that, but at least something is working. When i checked status on the physical meter and then AMS reader, this number is correct. 7925kWh

This is the comulative sum of high&low energy use (kWh) from the date when this meter was set up.
This number updates every 15min, checked.

Screenshot 2024-11-22 at 21 21 40

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ArnieO commented Nov 23, 2024

Thank you - I'll check that 15 minute telegram later.
Are you two @nori-modelar and @TimotejHofbauer with the same distributor (El.Ljubljana)?

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ArnieO commented Nov 23, 2024

This is the comulative sum of high&low energy use (kWh) from the date when this meter was set up.

That would be the sum of these two:
image

Which is correct, as we do not handle day/night tariffs in this firmware.
So on meters that have separate counters for day/night tariff we add the two.

It seems like we then just need a tweek to recognize correctly the other data points in the telegram. I know @gskjold has a busy period right now - so please be patient until he gets a chance to look into this.

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nori-modelar commented Nov 23, 2024

@ArnieO It is just me, logged in from another account by mistake. I am also seeing at least two others Slovenians (Dist: El. Ljubljana) under discussion and other issues so I hope they will have the chance to test it together with me once the fix is out.

Seems like that yes, thanks for the help so far!

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ArnieO commented Nov 23, 2024

@ArnieO It is just me, logged in from another account by mistake.

No problem, I just wanted to be sure the logs and the info from the grid company was for the same meter.

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Hi, I'm also from Slovenia and this are my settings for AMS reader using Slimmelezer+ together with HA via MQTT.
Try to set HAN RX to UART2 :)

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@mutymaster You did not clarify if this solves anything? Will try when i get back home but i believe you got green HAN only because you are at 20:30 therefore the 15min interval is received and the HAN goes green for a few seconds-otherwise nothing else is received like it should be.

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ArnieO commented Nov 28, 2024

Hi, I'm also from Slovenia and this are my settings for AMS reader using Slimmelezer+ together with HA via MQTT.
Try to set HAN RX to UART2 :)

Thank you for that @mutymaster - but the issue here is that the firmware currently does not handle all the various payload formats used in Slovenia.

Unfortunately, the format and content of payloads varies significantly. As long as the content includes so called "OBIS codes" that identify each parameter, our firmware will be able to recognize the parameter.

In the case of Slovenia:

  1. The payloads do NOT include OBIS codes that identify the parameters (Example: Help with Iskraemeco AM550 in Slovenia #869 (comment))
  2. There seems to be (at least) nine grid companies that use slightly different content in the payloads. See No data is displayed/decoded although connection to meter is OK #615 (comment)

In order to handle such payloads, we need to write some code for each variant - and will then need documentation to identify the payload content.

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@mutymaster You did not clarify if this solves anything? Will try when i get back home but i believe you got green HAN only because you are at 20:30 therefore the 15min interval is received and the HAN goes green for a few seconds-otherwise nothing else is received like it should be.

You are wrong. It's sending data all the time continuously in 5s intervals. HAN is GREEN all the time... In HA I am monitoring live data to operate current limit on the phases and consumption.

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ArnieO commented Nov 28, 2024

HAN is GREEN all the time..

Green all the time?
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mutymaster commented Nov 28, 2024

I am not aware of OBIS codes, I just wanted to say that it works for me and my needs of live data sampling from the meter. Sorry for old photo - the point were the settings, not sure why HAN was offline at that moment. It sure is online now all the time. I have restarted it and here you go:
ams

ams2

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ArnieO commented Nov 28, 2024

I am not aware of OBIS codes, I just wanted to say that it works for me and my needs of live data sampling frome the meter.

Which is great! 👍
We know that we currently handle some Slovenian formats - but not yet all.

Which grid company / distributor are you with?

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mutymaster commented Nov 28, 2024

Which grid company / distributor are you with?

Elektro Gorenjska

The only issue I am facing with slimmelezer+ is that I need to start it with powering it over the usb-c connector and after it booted, I can disconnect it and it will work on its own over the LAN cable. Also, when the Wi-Fi signal is lost it powers off and I need to revive it again. Haven't yet figure that out.

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HAN is GREEN all the time..

Green all the time? image

Ok, I have checked and tested it again, both HAN RX and TX should be set to UART2 so HAN is green and working all the time. I am apologizing for spamming wrong informations before.

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ArnieO commented Nov 28, 2024

I am apologizing for spamming wrong informations before.

No problem at all, confirmation on working setups is always interesting. And thank you for confirming your distributor is Elektro Gorenjska.

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nori-modelar commented Nov 28, 2024

Yeah, i am facing same issues with the slimmelezer...seems like there is not enough power for the startup. Although i did manage to power it up without the powerbank, just plug it in really fast two times so some energy is still stored in the capacitors form the first unsuccessful power up. The settings in AMSreader do not really change anything (power db)

I am definitely buying AMSreader HW if this power-up thing can be solved.

When it comes to your case, glad to see it working, but i did notice yes that Elektro Gorenjska is working for multiple users while Elektro Ljubljana is still a mystery :)

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ArnieO commented Nov 28, 2024

I am definitely buying AMSreader HW if this power-up thing can be solved.

We do not see this issue on our hardware.

Elektro Ljubljana is still a mystery :)

Not a mystery! 😄 We have the input we need, it is just a matter of @gskjold finding time to do some code adjustments.

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@ArnieO So which HW is the right for my use? It needs to be on WIFI. I believe it would be fair to contribute to you and @gskjold in that way!

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ArnieO commented Nov 28, 2024

@ArnieO So which HW is the right for my use? It needs to be on WIFI. I believe it would be fair to contribute to you and @gskjold in that way!

It is the Pow-P1 - and you will see the recommendation if you use the Selection guide in our webshop: https://www.amsleser.no/index.php?fc=module&module=ams_selector&controller=display (We will add Slovenia to the list of known countries for Iskraemeco AM550 with a note regarding which distributors are currently covered.)

You can place order on Lectronz: https://lectronz.com/products/pow-p1-reader-for-power-meter-with-p1-port

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Just jumping in here, we had that discussion last year - hello All. Great seeing progress with the multi-standard country Slovenia 😠. I am on Elektro Celje - had to write my own script to get it working on a RPI4 and than in HA. But would definitely go with the AMSreader once Elektro Celje (ECE) would be implemented 👍.

@ArnieO ArnieO changed the title Help with Iskraemeco AM550 Help with Iskraemeco AM550 in Slovenia Nov 28, 2024
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ArnieO commented Nov 28, 2024

once Elektro Celje (ECE) would be implemented

It would be great if you could post example payloads (both the 5 second and 15 minute) and content definitions. We could then implement in parallell with Elektro Ljubljana.

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sure. let me do this when I return from my trip and am back in office.

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rvetrsek commented Nov 28, 2024

Hi all, I started playing around with my Slimmelezer+ again today here in Slovenia on an AM550 meter, and while it still doesn't work, I thought I would share my frames to see if it helps the developers add support or if someone has some pointers for me to try.

My setup is like this:

  • Meter: AM550
  • Location: Slovenia
  • Distributor: Elektro Ljubljana (GEN-i)
  • I need to enable decryption so the red message about authentication disappears. I have some description keys from when I first started playing with this.
  • Board: Slimmelezer+
  • Communication: Passive
  • Serial conf.:
    • Inverted: false
    • 38400
    • 8N1
    • 512
  • Voltage: 230V
  • Main fuse: 20
  • Production: 0
  • Multipliers: false
  • HAN RX: UART2
  • HAN TX:
  • Pullup: false
  • Inverted: true
  • AP button: 0
  • LED:
  • RGB inverted: false
  • RGB:
  • LED dis. GPIO: 0
  • Temperature:
  • Analog temp:
  • Vcc offset: 0
  • Multiplier: 1
  • Boot limit: 2.6

These are my DLMS frames:

1s

Raw

0F 00 34 25  28 0C 07 E8  0B 1C 04 0F  0F 01 00 FF
C4 00 02 09  09 10 49 53  4B 31 30 33  30 37 37 37
34 37 38 35  38 36 06 00  00 02 71 06  00 00 00 00
06 00 C3 28  BE 06 00 57  7A 26 06 00  6B AE 98 06
00 00 00 FA  06 00 00 00  70 06 00 00  00 8A

Translated

<DataNotification>
  <LongInvokeIdAndPriority Value="00342528" />
  <!--2024-11-28 15:15:01-->
  <DateTime Value="07E80B1C040F0F0100FFC400" />
  <NotificationBody>
    <DataValue>
      <Structure Qty="09" >
        <!--ISK1030777478586-->
        <OctetString Value="49534B31303330373737343738353836" />
        <UInt32 Value="00000271" />
        <UInt32 Value="00000000" />
        <UInt32 Value="00C328BE" />
        <UInt32 Value="00577A26" />
        <UInt32 Value="006BAE98" />
        <UInt32 Value="000000FA" />
        <UInt32 Value="00000070" />
        <UInt32 Value="0000008A" />
      </Structure>
    </DataValue>
  </NotificationBody>
</DataNotification>

15m

Raw

0F 00 34 25  26 0C 07 E8  0B 1C 04 0F  0F 00 00 FF
C4 00 02 04  09 08 37 37  34 37 38 35  38 36 11 00
06 00 C3 28  BD 06 00 00  00 FA

Translated:

<DataNotification>
  <LongInvokeIdAndPriority Value="00342526" />
  <!--2024-11-28 15:15:00-->
  <DateTime Value="07E80B1C040F0F0000FFC400" />
  <NotificationBody>
    <DataValue>
      <Structure Qty="04" >
        <!--77478586-->
        <OctetString Value="3737343738353836" />
        <UInt8 Value="00" />
        <UInt32 Value="00C328BD" />
        <UInt32 Value="000000FA" />
      </Structure>
    </DataValue>
  </NotificationBody>
</DataNotification>

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ArnieO commented Nov 28, 2024

@rvetrsek : The parameter list for Elektro Ljubjana is given here: #869 (comment).

(And please - this is not the right forum for discussing how to configure Slimmelezer; thank you for your understanding!)

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